Adam Dawson MIEAust, CPEng, NER, RPEQ (21909) Technical Manager Pryda ANZ My builder has gone into liquidation just after handover but with lots of work incomplete. I'm retired now, but I worked at a Uni as a Tech in a Lab and we did a consultancy on screw in bolts about 10 years ago.I would recommend them every time as the results were outstanding.Not one failed, they eventually pulled a piece out of the concrete, and this was way past the maximum design loading.One thing worth noting is that the hole size is important, so we found good reults were obtained by drilling an undersize hole and then redrilling the hole to the correct size as this eiminated a lot drilling wobble by the installer.Also found installation improves if the bolt is screwed in about halfway then backed out then reinserted and screwed down tight.Just use a quality brand as they are all acceptable.For external use hot dipped galvanised ( grey colour) are preferred to the cadmium gold passivated type. The whole fence is already manufactured and sitting in my yard ready to install, so I can't change the fundamental design. To all those who are carrying on about the regs. Sleeve anchors are a type of expansion bolt for masonry and concrete whilst dynabolt is a brand name. There will be a size to suit your requirement. So it seems they are comparable, as long of course the hole for the Ankascrew is true. there are a few brands of chemsets that use a standard silicon type gun to apply the mix but be ready to the lot in one go.Most of my experience is with tilt panels and though at times I have to fix to the edge of a panel it's not fun with anything bar 6-8mm fixings (nylocks) The self threading anchors do put outwards pressure on the hole when installing, this will be your enemy. Pool areas are known to degrade metals significantly, so best to invest in the right product. Im a fan of Chemset so that sounds good. ), Should work fine,Only drama would be the condition of concrete,Also what's the thickness of the ring beam on the pool , and the distance between fixings on the cleats to the pool, Pool ring beam is 160mm thick, and cleat holes on each side of the post are 175mm apart. either screw in or dyna. if these panels have any sort of load on them then, heavy fabricated hot dipped steel brackets with welded nuts incorporated in them , so you can bolt / unbolt from them is the go . I agree with most of above. http://www.ramset.com.au/public/ArtilID=3&menuNo=0, http://www.powers.com.au/products/focus.aspx?bgid=17, http://www.powers.com.au/products/focus.aspx?bgid=25. Thats what I ment by Screw bolt, I've used them before but only for a light clotheline so I don't if they will be ok. Well have a look at Ramset's web site, they have a range of sizes from biggins to smallins. So to fix a safe, for instance, you need multiple anchors positioned at right angles in the structure. Flush head sleeve anchors are much easier to remove. 10mm Dynabolts will be fine just dont do them up too tight. To complicate issues further, a "Dynabolt" made by Ramset would have a different sheer/tensile rating then a "Dynabolt" made by another company. It may be 160mm thick, but even though you're not planning on using an expanding fixing - you're talking about a bolt inserted in the middle of an edge beam - so halve the thicknessa bit of differing ground movement between the post base and the pool - can be caused by the settling with water load (remembering that 1,000lts is a tonne of weight! Is there a crawl space under the house where you can locate the rear side of the floor bearers? Copyright 2014 - 2021 Oneflare Pty Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Installation Features and Benets Improved security Patented sleeve crushes to close gaps up to 5mm and pulls down to induce clamp load. Everything should have been rated by the manufacture and subsequently be under warranty. Blue? Select to expand quoteHarrow said..Might be worth mentioning that my new aluminium fence is replacing a timber one of the exact same dimensions, (but a lot heavier), that has been in place for the last 30 years and was installed in the exact same manner to the edge of the pool with dynabolts, except they are all rusted and I can't get them out, or even undo them. The Dynabolt anchor is a general purpose all steel medium duty through xing, torque controlled, sleeve type expansion anchor for masonry and concrete. these brackets should be chemset to the concrete structure . Category: Anchors. Thus why I was looking at something that can be removed, and thus easily replaced every, say, 10 years.I would chemset some stainless steel studs in, something like 10mm studs in a 12mm hole and drill a 14mm hole in the cleat on the post, or if you can go for the timber plate that sailhack suggested, it's a really good idea. The bar already came with 8 Dynabolts so all I needed to do was to measure, drill the holes, insert the Dynabolts, hang the bar and then bolt it in - so I thought. All rights reserved. Huge difference between must, should, shall, In concrete all6 8 10 12 mm ankascrews work fine but in brickwork that could be a shade brittle or crumbly , the small diameter ankasrews tend to b more reliable. I imagine it's much stronger than all the other methods and no risk of breaking/cracking the edge of the concrete that an expanding anchor poses. Ankascrews are fantastic. Insert the . Those Ankascrews aren't going to come out, if you can ever get them in!!! Join the forum. Reply Beetaloo 11/06/2017 The concrete was only poured 8 days ago. It's only a small shed 8mm dynabolts are ample, 10mm bolts are overkill. Likewise. Well here it is. In contrast, installing an AnkaScrew is like screwing any other threaded fastener into a pilot hole, and therefore a great fit for carpenters. Contact Hilti and ask them, they will put you onto the correct anchor for the job. Dynabolt Hex Head 12 x 75mm Gal EACH. We have worked closely with our sister company ramsetreid, who manufacture the AnkaScrew, to ensure that our technical guidance is fully up to date and compliant with the latest codes and standards. So there will be repetitive pulling force, and that's what concerned me about them possibly working loose. Just drill your holes, hammer them in and crank em tight. Add to Wishlist Add to Compare $ 73. I decided to take action and since I was cleaning up the garage I was on a mission to install the chin-up bar. View Details. Copyright 2023. 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Potentially there will be kids leaning on the fence when they play in the pool, and regular wind loading of course. Would you consider fixing a timber plate (say just 90 to 140x45) to the underside of the concrete ring beam and fix to that? Mechanical anchors are not an option. Ramset. This website subject to the terms & conditions listed in the 'Help' section. Could you let me know the name of the store? "If you need a machine today and don't buy it, tomorrow you will have paid for it and not have it. no, no crawl space unfortunately. Berikut ini jenis-jenis dynabolt: 1. For sheer strength these screws work best. Of course everyone will ask for dynabolts as this is now the most common term when referring to a sleeve anchor but unless the retailer is specifically selling or promoting the ramset own brand (dynabolt) of sleeve anchor they will generally sell it and promote it as a 'sleeve anchor'. The AnkaScrew Screw-In Anchor is a totally removable thread forming anchor that is particularly well suited to close-to-edge/anchor fixing. DynaBolt Plus Sleeve Anchors The DynaBolt Plus Sleeve Anchor is a patented expansion anchor with an integrated pull-down section for improved fixture clamping. The trick is before inserting the dynabolt you must tighten the nut up just enough so that there is no slack in the bolt and it cannot move freely in the steel tube. 1. Steel. Add to Cart. Patented "pull-down" expansion sleeve closes gaps of up to 5mm providing enhanced security. This creates a strong connection, but the expansion force can cause the concrete to blow out if they are used too close to an edge. I've used them also (albeit many years ago when they first came out - so sure that they've improved) - great product in solid brick & concrete. Even though you may think this is overkill, the bolts are designed to work in shear as well as in tension (pulling out). I need something removeable, so thinking of using these instead of dynabolts. 14 Jan 2016 10:43AM. We're in a low-wind area, so would a 10mm still be required, or would an 8 or even 6 suffice? The DynaBolt Plus patented expansion sleeve closes gaps of up to 5mm, pulling down on the fixture to induce clamp load and provide improved security. The most reliable fixing is a Loxin anchor simply because of it's design. I'm going ahead with the nylon frame anchor. Chemical anchors are another option close to an edge, but their performance relies heavily on being installed correctly. Seems the one thing everyone agrees on is an epoxy set system. I made some drawings and took them to a local engineering workshop to have made up. If any component of the system fails, the whole system fails. so we found good reults were obtained by drilling an undersize hole and then redrilling the hole to the correct size as this eiminated a lot drilling wobble by the installer. Actually if they are suitable, they'd be my preference, as they don't rely so much on the concrete being in good condition, and can be removed and replaced without damaging the drilled hole. funny that eh firstguns i said i was being the devils advocate . Just a bit of packing under the front of the safe (anything will do) will help to reduce the gap at the top/back of the safe near the wall. Make sure you get the AnkaScrew with the WERCS thread. etc. I wouldn't be happy fixing an expansion type anchor 80mm from the edge of a slab, and definitely not from the edge of a pool ring beam that has all kinds of live loads on it.I'm not sure why you want it removable? eBay Product ID (ePID) 6011263146. Probably could start with a 10mm but I find the smaller 5mm lets me drill exactly where I want the hole to be. Chemset to brick sounds like the simplest and will space it at least every 600m. I would not rely on a screw type fixing in this situation. I need to secure a Pine Bearer to a brick wall. The fence is 1.8 meters high above the pool. The 3m high posts will be supporting 1.8m high x 2m long aluminium slat privacy panels that weigh 40kg each. Sleeve anchors don't grip very well if the bricks are hollow, and the Chemset is more likely to fill the voids. It was a nightmare to assemble and very cheaply and flimsily constructed. 9 Items Sort By Ramset Dynabolt Plus Sleeve Anchors M10 x 50mm A$0.75 Ramset Dynabolt Plus Sleeve Anchors M10 x 100mm A$1.15 Thanks! Start with a 5mm, 10mm then 12mm. This method applies to the screw type dynabolts as well. However, the grooves are actually there Join the Bunnings Workshop community today to ask questions and get advice. I prefer marine grade polyurethane sealers for this kind of work because they're superior to silicon and acrylic type sealers. The man who knows everything, doesnt really know everythinghe's just stopped learning Just being devils advocate did you read the regulations on safe install where it say expandable bolts or similar . They fasten into concrete, blockwork or other masonry substrates by way of expansion. The DynaBolt Plus Sleeve Anchor is a medium duty, torque controlled, expansion anchor, with an integrated pull-down section, designed for medium duty anchoring of timber and steel fixtures to concrete, brick or block. #concreteanchors #installconcreteanchors #diyforknuckleheads http://diyforknuckleheads.com How to install concrete anchors.How to attach timber / wood to concrete or any other SOLID masonry. There will be slight differences in installation process depending on what brand your using or what the manufacturers specifications are. The only way the bolt can react with the column is if it's fully connected, by this I mean if the hole in cleats is 12 mm and you put a 12 mm bolt/ chemi/ mungo/ dyna etc etc, by having a 14mm hole in the cleat and a 10mm bolt and washer it allows for expansion/ contraction / movement, the ones to the floor don't require it. As they have a really course thread you can strip the hole surprisingly easily, Select to expand quotemitchbat saidI've used them a heap of times for fixing signage frames to masonry walls. Our Standard Terms & Conditions of Sale, Engineering Guidance for Ramset AnkaScrews in Wall Tie Down Connections, Prydas podcast provides expert knowledge at your fingertips, Introducing Prydas new Stick Build Framing Screws, TECH TALK Putting Timber Connections to the Test. If you have any ideas or suggestions, please feel free to add (at the moment, I'm done drilling about 4-5cm in and for some reason my drill batteries are being killed and the drill won't go any deeper, so I'm hoping that there's no steel plate or something along those lines in there as I paid someone to come detect for electrical wires and water pipe and there was nothing in the area I'm supposed to be drilling in. A screw bolt, or what we call a 'screw-in anchor', is an easy way to fix objects to concrete quickly. how tall is the screen above where it attaches to the pool? Cant you affix a short piece of Decking or 2x1 into the studs in the wall With some coach screws - then screw the safe into that to fix the gapping issue? Steer clear from nylon as it will perish and can weaken over time with excessive movement, and even check with the Anka & any other structural fixing component (re; corrosion from chlorine, including air-borne particles). I'd recommend using a 12mm threaded rod or 12mm x 125mm Dynabolts. I'm also getting close-ish to the slab edge (say 80-100mm) and have often struggled with Dynabolts the screw in alternatives are a lot easier and removable if needed and so I would prefer to use these if suitable. Thanks for the advice. AS14G70TCS10. Nah you'd get away with that Pomemaxits about the resistance to them pulling out & shear Nah its a bout a copper being a dick it say expandabel in the safe install reg so if the cop is a dick even chemset would not cover you. Sleeve anchors don't grip very well if the bricks are hollow, and the Chemset is more likely to fill the voids. The shed kit comes with an anchor kit that includes galvanised brackets and 10mm Dynabolts. We have lodged a claim with hbc but haven't heard anything back. Jual Dynabolt Terbaik - Harga Murah Februari 2023 & Cicil 0% Dynabolt Menampilkan 50rb+ produk untuk "dynabolt" (1 - 60 dari 50rb+) Urutkan: Paling Sesuai Ad dynabolt ukuran 8x65 Rp1.014 Cashback Jakarta Barat Aneka Baut Indonesia 4.9 Terjual 2 rb+ Ad dynabolt 10 x 50 dinabolt baut wowo Rp1.300 Cashback Jakarta Barat Abadi Jaya 27 5.0 Terjual 1 rb+ Hammer in the sleeve anchor through the item you'd like to fix into the base substrate (mostly concrete). The pool and drive are 40 years old. You can actually use a marine grade sealer under salt water, which gives an idea of their waterproofing qualities. There's no way it's coming out, but it's not too visible I'll be the only one who knows. Just keep the nut (or screw) firmly finger tight all the way in as you tap the dynabolt in. Hi @MitchellMc@, thanks! They look pretty ordinary, go to gatesplus or an Aussie online retailer. So there will be repetitive pulling force, and that's what concerned me about them possibly working loose. Many pools are constructed using fibre reinforcement as opposed to steel, and can also be constructed using aerated concrete for reduced weight - some masonry fixings simply won't bond to them. All fastened with 100mm stainless steel coach screws set into ramplugs with nylon washers so there's no stainless steel hardware touching the aluminium fencing. Drill the correct size hole for the screw and screw it in using a socket and rachet or an impact driver. Copyright 2014 - 2021 Oneflare Pty Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Sleeve anchors are a type of expansion bolt for masonry and concrete whilst dynabolt is a brand name. I have bought and installed a 6.1x3.1x2.1 high garden shed and Ankascrews were what they supplied with the kit. Privacy Policy 80 100 mm from the slab edge should be fine, use the designed fixing at the required spacing this will ensure that the shed doesn't get sucked up in an uplift of wind. 2. Hex Bolt provides a low profile finish without a protruding thread. Description. I hate to be a killjoy, but if any incidents occur at your pool - you will go through a world of hurt if your pool & area doesn't complyjust saying (from witnessing other's pain). I have also used the the Ankascrews before with no complaints ,definitely prefer them to the dyna or tap in nylon anchors in light to medium applications,if you can use them in a shear load application all the better , set up a few warehouse pallet racking systems in my day so have drilled a few holes & used most systems Ankascrews/screwbolts are great.I agree with most of above.Except in high vibration situations (machinery fixed down to concrete slabs for example), ankascrews can work themselves loose.Ramset website has most shear/tension capacities for many of its products.Clarence. 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